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Reggie prepares to throw a bomb into the investment banking crowd |
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| Written by Reggie Middleton | |||
| Wednesday, 13 August 2008 | |||
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Frank Quattrone, tech company investment banking extraordinaire, shares his views on Wall Street research - and I feel compelled to comment... See NYT article for the full spread (forgvie me NYT, for excerpting such a large chunk of the interview, but I must harp on this - my comments, as usual, are the red annotations):
For those who haven't been by BoomBustBlog user Shaunsnoll's site, he has a spreadsheet that tracks this blog's research. Give it a try. I would suggest that Excel web queries be used to automatically update the stock prices, since it the data is dated. Trackback(0)
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written by Ed Ryan, August 14, 2008
Reggie,
Again, You Are The Man! Now, regarding Eliot, who would have won the 2012 election if McCain won the 2008 election. Eliot blew it. But was the only force fighting the friends of Frank, Henry B., and his like. Now Frank Q. and Henry B. are now back as players and Eliot is toast. The 'Street" rewards the villians and punishes the inocent as many entering retirement will see. The few, the proud, and the brave, hopfully will lead us out of this mess. Semper Fi, Reggie, lead on. written by M Williamson, August 20, 2008
Reggie - I have been a lurker for several months. I appreciate your work.
As a former ibanker, I saw first hand the inherent conflict in the business model. Although, I would say that in any industry that sells a product or service, the salesmen have to tell the people to buy. That doesn't make it right, it just means that life is all about conflicts and we have to make decisions on our own. I am for people taking responsibility for their own actions. It is difficult to point to one part of the system and deem them the bad guy. For instance, I could make an argument that the Fidos and Putnams of the world are equally at fault b/c they gave their blessing (ie allocated their money) to the deals which enabled them to go public. A deal never gets done solely on retail interest - in fact retail allocations rarely surpass 15%. Therefore, what I would deem to be the "true" gate keepers of the money let us all down because the money was too good...but that was true at all levels. Mgmt making up a story, ibankers selling a story, money managers buying a story, and finally retail investors buying a story all because they wanted to make money in the greatest casino of all time. Hell I love to get on a hot streak in Vegas, but I need take responsibility when that hot streak ends. When money is flowing, regulation gets weaker/goes away. Follow the money and you can generally find your answer. Let's look at what happened post Spitzer at one of your faves - GS. 2001 Operating Income: Ibanking $719 MM, Prop Investing $1,215MM....2007 Ibanking $2,570MM, Prop Investing $13,228MM Hmmm....which area has grown the most? GS realized that risk/reward profile of the research analyst "conflict" with clients could be dwarfed by moving that conflict in house. It is simple math. Your work on the financial sector reminds me of the pipeline cos circa Enron. Everyone wanted to believe that Enron was a roque operator and an anomoly -- that Duke, El Paso, et al didn't have the same off balance sheet shenanigans...yeah right. How long do you have to be alive to realize that if somebody in business is doing something and making money, it won't be long before everybody is doing it. The one thing I didn't think about at the time was that of course the ibanks/commercial banks structuring the deals for the energy companies where utilizing the same in house. Even dealers taste the product once in a while! Keep up the good work. Write comment
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I've enjoyed being a fly-on-the-wall on your blog for months. I particularly enjoy reading your sarcastically incisive posts - like this one.
But I think you may be preaching prematurely:
-You have made some very good calls - but they're correlated. You and lots of others identified the housing mess, and the impact it would have on banks, and started taking or publishing big bets against financial companies. For your sake I hope you've been richly rewarded in your private trading. But for a serious investor to take you and your analysis seriously he'd need to see something else: a history of non-correlated super-market returns.
-I certainly agree with your acerbic criticism of Quattrone for suggesting that the Spitzer rules be repealed. But if I may summarize your post as: "given all their resources, why can't the wall street analysts predict the market performance of companies any better?" the answer seems obvious: they are indirectly market participants - LARGE market participants. If all the analysts did better than the market...who would be losing? The "buy-side" mutual funds? Why? The buy-side is as-well capitalized (in $ and brainpower terms). In any competition there must be some winners and some losers. If you have unusual skill (and you may) you'd do better to start a closed-end mutual fund and charge your loyal followers "2-and-20".